MANILA, Philippines – Manny Pacquiao will be in major trouble the moment he steps in the ring with Antonio Margarito, according to the Mexican’s chief trainer.
Speaking to fightchronicles.com, Robert Garcia expressed confidence that they have already solved the Pacquiao puzzle and is looking to stop the Filipino ring icon for the first time in more than a decade.
“We’ve been watching a lot of Manny’s fights and we know exactly how to attack him,” he told Joseph Padullon of fightchronicles.com. “We have been especially interested in his fights with (Miguel) Cotto and (Juan Manuel) Marquez.”
Pacquiao, of course, struggled in his two fights with the counter-punching Marquez. Although victorious against Cotto last November, the Filipino ended up with a busted ear, a result of the Puerto Rican's deadly left hooks.
Garcia also went as far as predicting the fight’s outcome.
“(An) 11th-round knockout. This isn’t going to just be a win for Margarito, this is going to be a (expletive) beatdown we put on him (Pacquiao),” he said.
“A big time beating is what we got for Manny Pacquiao,” Garcia added.
Pacquiao and Margarito tangle on Nov. 13 at the Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas for the vacant WBC junior middleweight title.
Source: philstar.com
Saturday, September 25, 2010
Antonio Margarito will quit - Freedie Roach
MANILA, Philippines - Freddie Roach won’t be surprised if Antonio Margarito goes down as fast, as hard like Ricky Hatton.
“That’s what I’m thinking about,” said the certified champion maker yesterday as he sat by the edge of the ring.
Roach arrived at the Elorde Gym more than an hour ahead of Manny Pacquiao who later on put on a two-hour show as the gym was packed with fans, friends and members of the media.
Roach thinks Margarito won’t be able to take it if he is caught with the same punch that left Hatton in a trance after taking a solid left from Pacquiao in the second round of their 2008 showdown.
“If we catch him, that happens,” said Roach.
The American who once trained Mike Tyson said he’s not losing sleep over the Nov. 13 fight with Margarito for the vacant WBC super-welterweight crown at the Cowboys Stadium.
He said he never had, since the fight was sealed more than a month ago, and never will.
“The thing is I’m not worried about this guy. I’m not losing sleep over Margarito,” said Roach of the 5-foot-11 Mexican who once was probably one of the most feared boxers in the welterweight class.
Roach, however, wouldn’t listen to that, saying Margarito was never exceptional.
“He’s so slow. They better improve on something. But I can’t say this is an easy fight. I don’t want Manny to think that way,” he said.
Margarito is coming off a one-year suspension for illegal hand wraps in his fight against Shane Mosley very early last year, a fight where he was knocked out in the ninth round like he’d never fight again.
But he did, and last May he defeated Robert Garcia, whom Roach described as “a nice kid who can’t really fight.”
“I don’t know. But I don’t want to kill the fight until we blow him (Margarito) away,” said Roach.
“The thing is, once you quit, it’s easier to quit the second time,” he added, thinking of Erik Morales who quit in the 10th round of his second fight and in the third round of his third fight with Pacquiao.
“In your life you pray it (quitting) would never happen. But when that happens, it’s much easier to quit the second time,” said Roach
This is not part of a psywar, he assured.
“I can tell this to his face: I bet you will quit,” said Roach.
Moments later, Pacquiao came in, and soon after, Roach was up in the ring.
“That’s what I’m thinking about,” said the certified champion maker yesterday as he sat by the edge of the ring.
Roach arrived at the Elorde Gym more than an hour ahead of Manny Pacquiao who later on put on a two-hour show as the gym was packed with fans, friends and members of the media.
Roach thinks Margarito won’t be able to take it if he is caught with the same punch that left Hatton in a trance after taking a solid left from Pacquiao in the second round of their 2008 showdown.
“If we catch him, that happens,” said Roach.
The American who once trained Mike Tyson said he’s not losing sleep over the Nov. 13 fight with Margarito for the vacant WBC super-welterweight crown at the Cowboys Stadium.
He said he never had, since the fight was sealed more than a month ago, and never will.
“The thing is I’m not worried about this guy. I’m not losing sleep over Margarito,” said Roach of the 5-foot-11 Mexican who once was probably one of the most feared boxers in the welterweight class.
Roach, however, wouldn’t listen to that, saying Margarito was never exceptional.
“He’s so slow. They better improve on something. But I can’t say this is an easy fight. I don’t want Manny to think that way,” he said.
Margarito is coming off a one-year suspension for illegal hand wraps in his fight against Shane Mosley very early last year, a fight where he was knocked out in the ninth round like he’d never fight again.
But he did, and last May he defeated Robert Garcia, whom Roach described as “a nice kid who can’t really fight.”
“I don’t know. But I don’t want to kill the fight until we blow him (Margarito) away,” said Roach.
“The thing is, once you quit, it’s easier to quit the second time,” he added, thinking of Erik Morales who quit in the 10th round of his second fight and in the third round of his third fight with Pacquiao.
“In your life you pray it (quitting) would never happen. But when that happens, it’s much easier to quit the second time,” said Roach
This is not part of a psywar, he assured.
“I can tell this to his face: I bet you will quit,” said Roach.
Moments later, Pacquiao came in, and soon after, Roach was up in the ring.
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Poor techniques will beat Margarito - Roach
MANILA, Philippines – After carefully studying Antonio Margarito’s fight tapes, trainer Freddie Roach pointed to poor fundamentals as a major drawback in the Mexican roughhouser’s style and said the other day his lack of ring generalship will make it easy for Manny Pacquiao to score a knockout in their 12-round bout for the WBC superwelterweight title at the Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, on Nov. 13.
“Margarito has no control of the ring,” noted Roach. “He has little foot movement. He doesn’t cut the ring off. Instead, he follows his opponent around. I don’t see sound fundamentals. His strong point is a good chin, a better chin than Ricky Hatton. But he quits - something he showed in the Sugar Shane Mosley fight.”
What makes Margarito dangerous is he’s got nothing to lose and everything to gain. And he’s desperate to straighten out his career tainted by a suspension stemming from a finding that his handwraps contained traces of sulfur and calcium to form a hardened plaster in the dressing room before the Mosley fight in January last year.
“If he wins (over Pacquiao), all of a sudden, he’s up there,” said Roach. “I think he got away with just a slap on the wrist for his loaded handwraps. The sentence was kind to him. Of course, he knew his handwraps were loaded. How could anyone not know he’s weighed down by a brick? Luis Resto and Panama Lewis served three years in prison and were banned for life when it was proved they conspired to pad handwraps in the Billy Collins fight. I’m assuming Margarito used loaded handwraps when he knocked out Miguel Cotto. Margarito came back from his suspension last May and is now fighting Manny - that’s getting off lightly.”
Because Margarito is known for his dirty tricks, Roach said it wouldn’t be smart for Pacquiao to stay on the ropes and invite the Mexican to bang away. Pacquiao used the rope-a-dope trick on Cotto who took the bait, abandoned his left jab and bore in only to absorb a brutal beating en route to a 12th round technical knockout loss in Las Vegas last year.
“Margarito’s an in between a Cotto and an Oscar de la Hoya,” said Roach. “Manny won’t fight him like he did Cotto. Margarito’s a dirty fighter. He’ll do whatever he can to win. He’ll throw low blows, butt and elbow. Manny’s watched tape, too. We compared notes about his habits and we observed the same things. We’ve talked about our gameplan and we’ll develop it as we go along in training camp.”
Roach said he has nothing against Margarito but didn’t appreciate his comments about Pacquiao during a recent press conference in Dallas.
“He likened his handwraps issue with (Floyd) Mayweather’s accusation of Manny taking performance enhancing drugs,” said Roach. “Wait a minute. Margarito got caught. Manny was accused but nothing was substantiated because he doesn’t do drugs. There’s a big difference between his issue and Manny’s. When I mentioned the Tijuana Tornado would get downgraded to a tropical storm, he stared me down.”
Roach said Margarito’s 4 1/2- inch height advantage doesn’t worry him.
“Size doesn’t win fights,” he explained. “Speed kills and Manny’s just too fast for Margarito. It’s easier to bring down a bigger guy than a smaller guy or someone who’s your size. Margarito’s not a mover. Besides, we still don’t really know if he can punch. I’ve talked to three guys who’ve sparred with him and they’re giving me different impressions. Rashad Holloway sparred with Margarito and broke his eye socket. One guy, Zavala, swore Margarito can’t punch after sparring with him but another guy, the Scottish kid Craig McEwan, told me he hits like a hammer. Whatever, we’ll be ready. Margarito is a volume puncher, he’s no Joshua Clottey. He’ll keep Manny busy.”
Roach said he expects the first four rounds to be explosive.
“We’ll see a very competitive first four rounds,” he said. “Margarito will come out attacking. Then, Manny will start breaking him down with his power and speed. He won’t be able to handle Manny’s speed. He’ll begin feeling Manny’s power and remember, he cuts easily. Manny will go on to beat him up badly. I think it’ll be over by the eighth round.”
Margarito, 32, is coming off a unanimous 10-round decision over Roberto Garcia for the vacant WBC International superwelterweight crown in Aguascalientes, Mexico, last May. Garcia was floored in the first round and was never in contention as the judges scored it 100-88, 99-90 and 99-89. Margarito’s record is 38-6, with 27 KOs compared to Pacquiao’s 51-3-2, with 38 KOs.
Pacquiao, 31, has won his last 12 fights, eight inside the distance, and hasn’t lost since dropping a decision to Erik Morales five years ago. If he beats Margarito, Pacquiao will set a new record by capturing his eighth world title in eight different divisions.
Source: philstar.com
“Margarito has no control of the ring,” noted Roach. “He has little foot movement. He doesn’t cut the ring off. Instead, he follows his opponent around. I don’t see sound fundamentals. His strong point is a good chin, a better chin than Ricky Hatton. But he quits - something he showed in the Sugar Shane Mosley fight.”
What makes Margarito dangerous is he’s got nothing to lose and everything to gain. And he’s desperate to straighten out his career tainted by a suspension stemming from a finding that his handwraps contained traces of sulfur and calcium to form a hardened plaster in the dressing room before the Mosley fight in January last year.
“If he wins (over Pacquiao), all of a sudden, he’s up there,” said Roach. “I think he got away with just a slap on the wrist for his loaded handwraps. The sentence was kind to him. Of course, he knew his handwraps were loaded. How could anyone not know he’s weighed down by a brick? Luis Resto and Panama Lewis served three years in prison and were banned for life when it was proved they conspired to pad handwraps in the Billy Collins fight. I’m assuming Margarito used loaded handwraps when he knocked out Miguel Cotto. Margarito came back from his suspension last May and is now fighting Manny - that’s getting off lightly.”
Because Margarito is known for his dirty tricks, Roach said it wouldn’t be smart for Pacquiao to stay on the ropes and invite the Mexican to bang away. Pacquiao used the rope-a-dope trick on Cotto who took the bait, abandoned his left jab and bore in only to absorb a brutal beating en route to a 12th round technical knockout loss in Las Vegas last year.
“Margarito’s an in between a Cotto and an Oscar de la Hoya,” said Roach. “Manny won’t fight him like he did Cotto. Margarito’s a dirty fighter. He’ll do whatever he can to win. He’ll throw low blows, butt and elbow. Manny’s watched tape, too. We compared notes about his habits and we observed the same things. We’ve talked about our gameplan and we’ll develop it as we go along in training camp.”
Roach said he has nothing against Margarito but didn’t appreciate his comments about Pacquiao during a recent press conference in Dallas.
“He likened his handwraps issue with (Floyd) Mayweather’s accusation of Manny taking performance enhancing drugs,” said Roach. “Wait a minute. Margarito got caught. Manny was accused but nothing was substantiated because he doesn’t do drugs. There’s a big difference between his issue and Manny’s. When I mentioned the Tijuana Tornado would get downgraded to a tropical storm, he stared me down.”
Roach said Margarito’s 4 1/2- inch height advantage doesn’t worry him.
“Size doesn’t win fights,” he explained. “Speed kills and Manny’s just too fast for Margarito. It’s easier to bring down a bigger guy than a smaller guy or someone who’s your size. Margarito’s not a mover. Besides, we still don’t really know if he can punch. I’ve talked to three guys who’ve sparred with him and they’re giving me different impressions. Rashad Holloway sparred with Margarito and broke his eye socket. One guy, Zavala, swore Margarito can’t punch after sparring with him but another guy, the Scottish kid Craig McEwan, told me he hits like a hammer. Whatever, we’ll be ready. Margarito is a volume puncher, he’s no Joshua Clottey. He’ll keep Manny busy.”
Roach said he expects the first four rounds to be explosive.
“We’ll see a very competitive first four rounds,” he said. “Margarito will come out attacking. Then, Manny will start breaking him down with his power and speed. He won’t be able to handle Manny’s speed. He’ll begin feeling Manny’s power and remember, he cuts easily. Manny will go on to beat him up badly. I think it’ll be over by the eighth round.”
Margarito, 32, is coming off a unanimous 10-round decision over Roberto Garcia for the vacant WBC International superwelterweight crown in Aguascalientes, Mexico, last May. Garcia was floored in the first round and was never in contention as the judges scored it 100-88, 99-90 and 99-89. Margarito’s record is 38-6, with 27 KOs compared to Pacquiao’s 51-3-2, with 38 KOs.
Pacquiao, 31, has won his last 12 fights, eight inside the distance, and hasn’t lost since dropping a decision to Erik Morales five years ago. If he beats Margarito, Pacquiao will set a new record by capturing his eighth world title in eight different divisions.
Source: philstar.com
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Pacquiao vs Margarito: Tactical Warfare!
By P.H. Burbridge - > Antonio Margarito! The DISGRACED Antonio Margarito will never again gain the kind of universal support boxing fans showed him after his brutal and methodical dismantling of Miguel Cotto in July of 2008. The fight with Shane Mosley in January of 2009 forever changed him as a fighter and as a man. Not even the most highly effective PR firm in the world could change the fight public¡¯s perception of him and at this point it doesn¡¯t matter. The business of boxing is a dirty one and if you¡¯re searching for ethics in this sport you¡¯re waiting your time. We¡¯re constantly being reminded that the only thing that matters is if a fighter has the right connections! Well, Antonio Margarito is connected and has the right professional relationships to even commit boxing¡¯s most egregious sin and STILL GET the biggest fight that can be had. That¡¯s the bottom line and NOTHING we say as a fan base apparently changes a thing if a promoter or a sanctioning body see¡¯s money to be made. There¡¯s not even a hint of legitimacy to this fight from the participants to the sanctioning body¡¯s making available a ¡°world title¡± and not only is it maddening, it¡¯s ridiculous. So, that¡¯s our reality! This fight will happen and it will be billed as a world championship match! Period! I¡¯m not going to spend this time preaching a sermon on why I feel everything about this fight is wrong and unethical but suffice it to say if I wasn¡¯t worried about creating legal issues for my self or ESB you would be reading some pretty intense criticism of EVERYBODY involved! I¡¯m turning off my ethics sensor for now for the purposes of this article and you probably should too if you¡¯re going to get anything out of it..
And to further support that sentiment the ¡°Tactical Warfare¡± series is generally not about the peripheral issues surrounding the ring anyway. It¡¯s about fighting! It¡¯s about the technical application and probable tactical approach of each man inside of the ring. That¡¯s it! So, let¡¯s take the emotion / outrage out of the equation and deal with how each camp might approach this challenge.
And let¡¯s all be clear right from the get go, this is a massive challenge for both sides.
Manny Pacquiao is on the verge of competing at his highest weight and there is a SERIOUS element of danger here. Pacquiao fighting at a max weight of 151 lbs is again entering into uncharted territory which has kind of become the norm for boxing¡¯s most fan friendly fighter and although he offers other worldly attributes in speed and unorthodox wizardry every other advantage appears to go to the man they call the ¡°Tijuana Tornado¡±, Antonio Margarito. Margarito is a huge welterweight who at 5¡¯ 11¡± presents a number of logistical challenges for the 5¡Ç 6¨ö¡È Pacquiao who will require a nearly perfect performance to emerge victorious. Margarito looks like a middleweight where as Manny looks more like a lightweight but, as Pacquiao has proven to the world time after time looks can be deceiving. Two years ago fight aficionados would have scoffed at this match up. In fact, Antonio Margarito ridiculed Oscar De La Hoya for fighting Pacquiao instead of him proclaiming Oscar would rather fight a ¡°small man¡± with little to no chance of hurting him than the #1 welterweight in the world and recent conqueror of the previously unbeaten Miguel Cotto.
Well, nobody¡¯s scoffing now!! In fact, the tables have been turned. BIG TIME! Now, the boxingintelligentsia roundly supports Pacquiao as the favorite.
I don¡¯t let such opinions sway my judgment or impact my preparation for Tactical Warfare. I just study each fighter with the volume turned all the way down.
Upon a careful analysis which included a complete analytical review of each man¡¯s last 10 fights I¡¯m intrigued by the style match up here. I¡¯ve concluded that Manny Pacquiao will have to fight in a manner that he¡¯s not altogether known for and the question is can he ignore his own fighter DNA for a full 12 rounds? Manny will not or at least, should not attempt to be the stalker in this fight. He must fight very disciplined and stick to Freddie Roach¡¯s game plan which will no doubt call for constant in and out motion. This is a high lateral movement cardio themed fight for Pacquiao and it will be very different from the Clottey fight where Manny threw over 1,200 punches. The punch out put will not be as high for Margarito because of the need for perpetual movement. Pacquiao is blessed with incredible foot speed which is not to say he can out run a world class sprinter it means that he is able to change direction in a millisecond which is the key to his style of defense. People cite his incredible hand speed as a main asset but I believe his true gift can be found in is his legs. Freddie Roach has taught him to use his legs as the focal point of his defense and it¡¯s allowed him to move up in weight with the great success. His power is a given but his ability to land shots and remove himself immediately forces opponents to reach and get out of position. He has improved over the years in moving his head and getting underneath punches but his legs still remain the focal point of his defensive approach and he¡¯ll need every bit of them for Margarito. A stationary Manny is a hittable Manny and no one understands that better than Freddie Roach.
Against Margarito, Roach will not allow him to test himself with his back against the ropes offering his body the way he did against Cotto and Clottey. Margarito is a harder puncher than both of those men and his left hook to the body has ended many a fight so, if you see Manny attempting to out macho Tony in this fashion he¡¯ll be doing exactly what Freddie Roach does not want him to do. Everything he does will have to be on the move which will decrease his punching power to a certain degree. It¡¯s the correct trade off given the nature of this match up.
I expect Manny to move primarily to his right and away from Margarito¡¯s right uppercut while using his own right hook alternately as a jab. His main concern in doing this is Margarito¡¯s looping left hook. I don¡¯t see that punch landing consistently from the outside because it¡¯s not delivered with great speed and Margarito generally has more success with it when his opponents are either against the ropes or stationary. By the same token, I don¡¯t see Manny being able to hurt Tony with his right hand. No matter what you¡¯ve read recently about improvements in his right hand and while much of it is true from an accuracy stand point I just don¡¯t believe it¡¯s a hard enough punch to hurt Margarito. Now, it looked great against smaller fighters like Diaz and Hatton but Manny was the puncher in those fights and as such was less fearful of retaliation. He could stand, set and deliver it with authority in those cases so, it appeared considerably more damaging. This is a whole different scenario with a heavy emphasis on constant movement and fast flurrying so you probably won¡¯t see Manny sitting down on his punches enough to do serious damage especially with his right against Margarito. He will however, do just fine with it as a scoring punch.
If Pacquiao is going to get some measure of respect from Tony it will not come from his right hook.
It will come from his left hand!
In an effort to do just that Pacquiao will attempt to put himself in a position where Margarito is squared up so he has the option to fire his most damaging punch, the straight left hand. That punch is a BIG problem for opponents because it¡¯s delivered with Manny¡¯s full body weight behind it and it¡¯s very fast and unorthodox. You¡¯ll never see a trainer try to teach that shot the way Pacquiao throws it because almost everything about it is wrong from a technical stand point. Manny actually leaves his feet at times and leaps into that shot. In the case of Roach, he probably debated with himself as whether to try and correct it but the reality is that it works for Pacquiao. AND, it¡¯s a tremendously hard shot and will get Margarito¡¯s respect if it lands. On the flip side, it can also be viewed as a potential weakness and might offer an opportunity. Manny explodes into that shot squaring himself up and in doing so becomes vulnerable to a counter right hand. Now, typically, he¡¯s able to avoid being countered because previous opponents have been smaller and when they saw that punch coming all they were focused on was getting out of the way. There are two tactics that can be employed to combat that shot. A fighter who has comparable speed and can get there first and the second is a big man like Margarito that can stay in the pocket and deliver the counter. Truthfully, Margarito does not have the speed to counter it so he¡¯ll have to time it perfectly or pay the price and although I don¡¯t think Manny can get him out with one punch I do think those shots will add up and Robert Garcia will alter plans accordingly if he starts taking too many. Don¡¯t let the result of the Mosley fight cloud your judgment here. Margarito more than likely still has ultra confidence in his chin and in his ability to absorb Manny¡¯s hardest shots. If he gauges Pacquiao¡¯s power early and does not feel any real one shot danger there then you can count that he and his trainer, Robert Garcia will attempt to create an environment where Manny feels comfortable enough to throw it. Roach will want to disguise it and use it sparingly. He¡¯ll watch closely for the trigger points and the set up. If Margarito appears too open at times for that shot, Roach will direct Manny to use his feints to determine if it¡¯s a set up. If Margarito is overly reactive to Manny¡¯s feints then expect to see him to throw more rights and hold back on his money punch. Roach and Pacquiao will walk into the ring that night prepared with a number of alternate plans.
If we do see that shot I think it will be early when Manny is fresh and full of energy. I think it¡¯s a dangerous shot to throw late because the fatigue factor will take some of the speed and power away. The internal battle going on inside of Pacquiao will center at times on NOT throwing his best shot. At the end of the day, Manny wants to do damage not box and for a fighter who is moving up in weight you must fight in a controlled way or run the risk of taking unnecessary punches from your bigger opponent.
If Pacquiao is going to be safe in this fight he has to be a disciplined BOXER. If he¡¯s able to maintain that I think he jumps out to an early lead 5-6 round lead.
Margarito has to force Pacquiao to fight going backwards under constant duress. He cannot allow him to land and pivot out of danger. He NEEDS to move him backwards. His long 73¡È reach could allow him to do just that if he gets his hooks working from either side. He also must not give up his height. He¡¯s the taller fighter and he must fight that way. When on the out side he wants Manny in the constant state of reaching not zooming in and zooming out. It¡¯s all about timing for Margarito and his offensive success will be limited so he¡¯ll have to make the most out of it. In mentality, he¡¯ll have to replicate the Cotto fight. Obviously, the participants are different but the pressure dynamic from Margarito¡¯s perspective needs to be similar. For his part Tony must continually jog forward attempting to stay close not only to engage Manny but to maintain mental pressure while constantly reminding Pacquiao that he¡¯s the bigger, stronger man capable of doing more damage. If they fall into clinches, he needs to exert his strength by leaning on and out muscling Pacquiao. He needs to impose his will and change Manny¡¯s mental demeanor which I believe could be the determining factor in the final outcome of this bout. To do that Antonio Margarito will have to prove to Pacquiao that his punching power is legitimate and not a product of loaded gloves. Margarito is known for his high punch out put as well as his clubbing shots so even if he¡¯s not landing cleanly he needs to be moving Pacquiao or knocking him off balance. There¡¯s no question that Manny is the slicker of the two but that¡¯s usually the case for Margarito. He has an ugly style with little to no aesthetic value. Margarito doesn¡¯t care how it looks just as long as he¡¯s doing damage. He will not become discouraged if he gives away the early rounds because his history tells us he finishes strong late. He is willing to trade his face for yours and also don¡¯t be surprised to see some rough tactics. In terms sportsmanship, he couldn¡¯t get any lower so in that regard he literally has nothing to lose. As long as he applies it in a manner that doesn¡¯t result in a disqualification he¡¯ll fight his normal fight. People still talk about what Roberto Duran was able to get away with against Davey Moore. In the end, all that really mattered was that Duran won. Margarito has that same mindset so it wouldn¡¯t be a shocker to see some questionable stuff. Roach will have plenty to say to the appointed referee through the press before the fight and during pre-fight dressing room instructions.
The rough stuff is coming and you can bet Roach¡¯s fight plan will take that into consideration.
Margarito will have great success in this fight if he¡¯s able to control distance. Manny because of his 67¡± reach is at a significant disadvantage in fighting on the outside and IF Margarito is successful in keeping him moving backwards rather than side to side this is going to be a huge problem for Roach. If Manny is able to successfully and consistently use lateral movement without lunging then you¡¯ll see him land a lot of scoring shots to the body early and after about round 7 you¡¯ll see him shift to the head and finish strong. That¡¯s generally the game plan for Roach. You spend a number of rounds measuring distance and gauging your opponents speed and power. Once you have those internal calculations down you can mix up your punches.
It works¡¦..That¡¯s why Roach is considered a master. He¡¯s logical and unemotional. On the flip side, people are now starting to recognize what boxing insiders in California have known for some time and that is Robert Garcia is one of the best young trainers in the sport. There¡¯s a reason high profile world class fighters like Nonito Donaire rely on Garcia. He¡¯s not just a trainer of Mexican sluggers. He¡¯s very adept at outlining the nuances of a fighter and taking advantage of very subtle traits. He knows what kind of fighter Manny is and he certainly knows what kind of fighter Margarito is.
This match will not be a work of art for either man because of the styles. You¡¯re going to see Manny moving more than you¡¯re used to and you¡¯re going to see Tony missing badly at times because of it.
To win, Manny will need complete order and for Tony, he will need utter chaos!
Source: eastsideboxing.com
And to further support that sentiment the ¡°Tactical Warfare¡± series is generally not about the peripheral issues surrounding the ring anyway. It¡¯s about fighting! It¡¯s about the technical application and probable tactical approach of each man inside of the ring. That¡¯s it! So, let¡¯s take the emotion / outrage out of the equation and deal with how each camp might approach this challenge.
And let¡¯s all be clear right from the get go, this is a massive challenge for both sides.
Manny Pacquiao is on the verge of competing at his highest weight and there is a SERIOUS element of danger here. Pacquiao fighting at a max weight of 151 lbs is again entering into uncharted territory which has kind of become the norm for boxing¡¯s most fan friendly fighter and although he offers other worldly attributes in speed and unorthodox wizardry every other advantage appears to go to the man they call the ¡°Tijuana Tornado¡±, Antonio Margarito. Margarito is a huge welterweight who at 5¡¯ 11¡± presents a number of logistical challenges for the 5¡Ç 6¨ö¡È Pacquiao who will require a nearly perfect performance to emerge victorious. Margarito looks like a middleweight where as Manny looks more like a lightweight but, as Pacquiao has proven to the world time after time looks can be deceiving. Two years ago fight aficionados would have scoffed at this match up. In fact, Antonio Margarito ridiculed Oscar De La Hoya for fighting Pacquiao instead of him proclaiming Oscar would rather fight a ¡°small man¡± with little to no chance of hurting him than the #1 welterweight in the world and recent conqueror of the previously unbeaten Miguel Cotto.
Well, nobody¡¯s scoffing now!! In fact, the tables have been turned. BIG TIME! Now, the boxingintelligentsia roundly supports Pacquiao as the favorite.
I don¡¯t let such opinions sway my judgment or impact my preparation for Tactical Warfare. I just study each fighter with the volume turned all the way down.
Upon a careful analysis which included a complete analytical review of each man¡¯s last 10 fights I¡¯m intrigued by the style match up here. I¡¯ve concluded that Manny Pacquiao will have to fight in a manner that he¡¯s not altogether known for and the question is can he ignore his own fighter DNA for a full 12 rounds? Manny will not or at least, should not attempt to be the stalker in this fight. He must fight very disciplined and stick to Freddie Roach¡¯s game plan which will no doubt call for constant in and out motion. This is a high lateral movement cardio themed fight for Pacquiao and it will be very different from the Clottey fight where Manny threw over 1,200 punches. The punch out put will not be as high for Margarito because of the need for perpetual movement. Pacquiao is blessed with incredible foot speed which is not to say he can out run a world class sprinter it means that he is able to change direction in a millisecond which is the key to his style of defense. People cite his incredible hand speed as a main asset but I believe his true gift can be found in is his legs. Freddie Roach has taught him to use his legs as the focal point of his defense and it¡¯s allowed him to move up in weight with the great success. His power is a given but his ability to land shots and remove himself immediately forces opponents to reach and get out of position. He has improved over the years in moving his head and getting underneath punches but his legs still remain the focal point of his defensive approach and he¡¯ll need every bit of them for Margarito. A stationary Manny is a hittable Manny and no one understands that better than Freddie Roach.
Against Margarito, Roach will not allow him to test himself with his back against the ropes offering his body the way he did against Cotto and Clottey. Margarito is a harder puncher than both of those men and his left hook to the body has ended many a fight so, if you see Manny attempting to out macho Tony in this fashion he¡¯ll be doing exactly what Freddie Roach does not want him to do. Everything he does will have to be on the move which will decrease his punching power to a certain degree. It¡¯s the correct trade off given the nature of this match up.
I expect Manny to move primarily to his right and away from Margarito¡¯s right uppercut while using his own right hook alternately as a jab. His main concern in doing this is Margarito¡¯s looping left hook. I don¡¯t see that punch landing consistently from the outside because it¡¯s not delivered with great speed and Margarito generally has more success with it when his opponents are either against the ropes or stationary. By the same token, I don¡¯t see Manny being able to hurt Tony with his right hand. No matter what you¡¯ve read recently about improvements in his right hand and while much of it is true from an accuracy stand point I just don¡¯t believe it¡¯s a hard enough punch to hurt Margarito. Now, it looked great against smaller fighters like Diaz and Hatton but Manny was the puncher in those fights and as such was less fearful of retaliation. He could stand, set and deliver it with authority in those cases so, it appeared considerably more damaging. This is a whole different scenario with a heavy emphasis on constant movement and fast flurrying so you probably won¡¯t see Manny sitting down on his punches enough to do serious damage especially with his right against Margarito. He will however, do just fine with it as a scoring punch.
If Pacquiao is going to get some measure of respect from Tony it will not come from his right hook.
It will come from his left hand!
In an effort to do just that Pacquiao will attempt to put himself in a position where Margarito is squared up so he has the option to fire his most damaging punch, the straight left hand. That punch is a BIG problem for opponents because it¡¯s delivered with Manny¡¯s full body weight behind it and it¡¯s very fast and unorthodox. You¡¯ll never see a trainer try to teach that shot the way Pacquiao throws it because almost everything about it is wrong from a technical stand point. Manny actually leaves his feet at times and leaps into that shot. In the case of Roach, he probably debated with himself as whether to try and correct it but the reality is that it works for Pacquiao. AND, it¡¯s a tremendously hard shot and will get Margarito¡¯s respect if it lands. On the flip side, it can also be viewed as a potential weakness and might offer an opportunity. Manny explodes into that shot squaring himself up and in doing so becomes vulnerable to a counter right hand. Now, typically, he¡¯s able to avoid being countered because previous opponents have been smaller and when they saw that punch coming all they were focused on was getting out of the way. There are two tactics that can be employed to combat that shot. A fighter who has comparable speed and can get there first and the second is a big man like Margarito that can stay in the pocket and deliver the counter. Truthfully, Margarito does not have the speed to counter it so he¡¯ll have to time it perfectly or pay the price and although I don¡¯t think Manny can get him out with one punch I do think those shots will add up and Robert Garcia will alter plans accordingly if he starts taking too many. Don¡¯t let the result of the Mosley fight cloud your judgment here. Margarito more than likely still has ultra confidence in his chin and in his ability to absorb Manny¡¯s hardest shots. If he gauges Pacquiao¡¯s power early and does not feel any real one shot danger there then you can count that he and his trainer, Robert Garcia will attempt to create an environment where Manny feels comfortable enough to throw it. Roach will want to disguise it and use it sparingly. He¡¯ll watch closely for the trigger points and the set up. If Margarito appears too open at times for that shot, Roach will direct Manny to use his feints to determine if it¡¯s a set up. If Margarito is overly reactive to Manny¡¯s feints then expect to see him to throw more rights and hold back on his money punch. Roach and Pacquiao will walk into the ring that night prepared with a number of alternate plans.
If we do see that shot I think it will be early when Manny is fresh and full of energy. I think it¡¯s a dangerous shot to throw late because the fatigue factor will take some of the speed and power away. The internal battle going on inside of Pacquiao will center at times on NOT throwing his best shot. At the end of the day, Manny wants to do damage not box and for a fighter who is moving up in weight you must fight in a controlled way or run the risk of taking unnecessary punches from your bigger opponent.
If Pacquiao is going to be safe in this fight he has to be a disciplined BOXER. If he¡¯s able to maintain that I think he jumps out to an early lead 5-6 round lead.
Margarito has to force Pacquiao to fight going backwards under constant duress. He cannot allow him to land and pivot out of danger. He NEEDS to move him backwards. His long 73¡È reach could allow him to do just that if he gets his hooks working from either side. He also must not give up his height. He¡¯s the taller fighter and he must fight that way. When on the out side he wants Manny in the constant state of reaching not zooming in and zooming out. It¡¯s all about timing for Margarito and his offensive success will be limited so he¡¯ll have to make the most out of it. In mentality, he¡¯ll have to replicate the Cotto fight. Obviously, the participants are different but the pressure dynamic from Margarito¡¯s perspective needs to be similar. For his part Tony must continually jog forward attempting to stay close not only to engage Manny but to maintain mental pressure while constantly reminding Pacquiao that he¡¯s the bigger, stronger man capable of doing more damage. If they fall into clinches, he needs to exert his strength by leaning on and out muscling Pacquiao. He needs to impose his will and change Manny¡¯s mental demeanor which I believe could be the determining factor in the final outcome of this bout. To do that Antonio Margarito will have to prove to Pacquiao that his punching power is legitimate and not a product of loaded gloves. Margarito is known for his high punch out put as well as his clubbing shots so even if he¡¯s not landing cleanly he needs to be moving Pacquiao or knocking him off balance. There¡¯s no question that Manny is the slicker of the two but that¡¯s usually the case for Margarito. He has an ugly style with little to no aesthetic value. Margarito doesn¡¯t care how it looks just as long as he¡¯s doing damage. He will not become discouraged if he gives away the early rounds because his history tells us he finishes strong late. He is willing to trade his face for yours and also don¡¯t be surprised to see some rough tactics. In terms sportsmanship, he couldn¡¯t get any lower so in that regard he literally has nothing to lose. As long as he applies it in a manner that doesn¡¯t result in a disqualification he¡¯ll fight his normal fight. People still talk about what Roberto Duran was able to get away with against Davey Moore. In the end, all that really mattered was that Duran won. Margarito has that same mindset so it wouldn¡¯t be a shocker to see some questionable stuff. Roach will have plenty to say to the appointed referee through the press before the fight and during pre-fight dressing room instructions.
The rough stuff is coming and you can bet Roach¡¯s fight plan will take that into consideration.
Margarito will have great success in this fight if he¡¯s able to control distance. Manny because of his 67¡± reach is at a significant disadvantage in fighting on the outside and IF Margarito is successful in keeping him moving backwards rather than side to side this is going to be a huge problem for Roach. If Manny is able to successfully and consistently use lateral movement without lunging then you¡¯ll see him land a lot of scoring shots to the body early and after about round 7 you¡¯ll see him shift to the head and finish strong. That¡¯s generally the game plan for Roach. You spend a number of rounds measuring distance and gauging your opponents speed and power. Once you have those internal calculations down you can mix up your punches.
It works¡¦..That¡¯s why Roach is considered a master. He¡¯s logical and unemotional. On the flip side, people are now starting to recognize what boxing insiders in California have known for some time and that is Robert Garcia is one of the best young trainers in the sport. There¡¯s a reason high profile world class fighters like Nonito Donaire rely on Garcia. He¡¯s not just a trainer of Mexican sluggers. He¡¯s very adept at outlining the nuances of a fighter and taking advantage of very subtle traits. He knows what kind of fighter Manny is and he certainly knows what kind of fighter Margarito is.
This match will not be a work of art for either man because of the styles. You¡¯re going to see Manny moving more than you¡¯re used to and you¡¯re going to see Tony missing badly at times because of it.
To win, Manny will need complete order and for Tony, he will need utter chaos!
Source: eastsideboxing.com
Friday, September 17, 2010
Atlas: Pacquiao could lose this fight!
"As far as the fight goes with Margarito, I think that's a dangerous fight for him. I personally think Pacquiao could lose this fight. I think that you've got a naturally bigger guy. He is really the bigger guy because Margarito is a big welterweight. He's a horse. He has the stuff that happened in the past, but as far as physicality, this is a big welterweight. He is a guy that throws a lot of punches, he's a guy that is physically strong and, up until the Mosley fight, as you touched on, he was very confident. I think that with this fight with Pacquiao, it presents a lot of areas of danger and real potential problems for Pacquiao that he hasn't faced for awhile...The opportunity is there to hit this guy. And that opportunity will be there for Margarito. And the only way I can look at it, and again, if you can't say what you believe, then you shouldn't say anything. To me, it's the right fight for his promoter, Bob Arum. Arum can't lose; he's got both guys. I'm not sure that it's the right fight for Pacquiao because to me, Pacquiao can make money with a lot of guys. He ain't making extra money because it's Margarito," stated ESPN commentator and world-class trainer Teddy Atlas, who shared his thoughts on the November 13 showdown between Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito. You don't want to miss what else he had to say about Pacquiao, Margarito, Hatton, De La Hoya and much more.
PC: You have already stated on Friday Night Fights how you felt about the Texas Commission granting Antonio Margarito his license. Now we are past that, because the fight is happening, so how do you see it playing out? Does Margarito have a chance or will he be another Pacquiao victim? Will Pacquiao capture his 8th title in 8 divisions?
TA: You know, I don't think these guys have 8 titles or 10 titles and stuff like that. I don't think they are real titles. You know, some of these titles are ridiculous; junior middleweight this and the in-between that. There are so many titles and so many weight divisions that, after awhile, if you wanted to and you aspired to, you could have 15 titles if that was your goal. They would create one for you if you needed them to, so I don't think about 8 titles. When I think about the greatest guy who has fought and had multiple titles, I don't think about these guys. I think about Henry Armstrong. That's a man. And it's not that these guys aren't, and they are all great in their places in time and place where they fit in right now, and I give them all of the credit for that, but come on? I mean, 8 titles? Henry Armstrong won the featherweight title, the lightweight title, welterweight title and full titles when there were so many good fighters around. And then he won the middleweight title against Ceferino Garcia, but they robbed him and made it a draw. So really, he won the featherweight, lightweight, welterweight and middleweight title. He should have had the middleweight title and he defended all of those titles. When I think about multiple titles, I think about that guy. I think of guys like that, where there were 4 titles and the best guys were around. There weren't spots to where you could pick a spot and just walk into a spot if you had a broken hand, and you could walk into that spot because you knew it was a very soft spot. That's what I think of. I'm not taking nothing away from Pacquiao, but I don't think of his greatness because you attach 8 titles. I'm just thinking of his talents, his speed, his confidence level, his punch output and his improvements over the last couple of years. He comes at you from different angles now. He offers different problems for you now, where before, you used to look for the big punch and now, you have to worry about the right hand and not just the left hand. I look at that and give him credit for those things, but I'm not going to go overboard with the 8 titles.
As far as the fight goes with Margarito, I think that's a dangerous fight for him. I personally think Pacquiao could lose this fight. I think that you've got a naturally bigger guy. He is really the bigger guy because Margarito is a big welterweight. He's a horse. He has the stuff that happened in the past, but as far as physicality, this is a big welterweight. He is a guy that throws a lot of punches, he's a guy that is physically strong and, up until the Mosley fight, as you touched on, he was very confident. I think that with this fight with Pacquiao, it presents a lot of areas of danger and real potential problems for Pacquiao that he hasn't faced for awhile. If you go back, and take nothing away from him, but if you go back to the fights that were really the marquee fights that made his career...put aside the Marquez fights, which were great fights that some people thought he didn't win both of those fights, so that's one thing, you can make an argument that he might not have won (laughing).
Put that aside and you look at De La Hoya and you can make the argument that De La Hoya was dead at the weight, you can make the argument that he is a shot fighter and you can also make the argument that De La Hoya never won a big fight. He never won a big fight. There was just something really wrong with De La Hoya where he would find a way to lose in big fights. Some people will say he beat Quartey. That wasn't considered a big fight. In fact, I think that was De La Hoya's last HBO appearance before he became a pay-per-view star. But if you look at the big fights in his [De La Hoya's] career, he lost them, so you look at that fight and the Ricky Hatton fight, and Hatton may have been a bigger guy, but he wasn't a puncher. I know it's easy to say after the fact, but going in there, you can say he was made to order for Pacquiao. He throws wide punches, he's not a big puncher, he's right in front of you and if you close your eyes, he's right in front of you. And he's going to start a punch from too far away. I remember when I watched the 24/7 and he was training with this guy that had a big body protector on. And he was punching at that body thing and I thought to myself, "Wait a minute, that body suit sits out about 6 or 7 inches from his body. That means he has to bring his hands back to throw a punch 6 inches before he normally would." Normally you would get a little closer to a guy to throw a punch, but now he's throwing the punch from further away because the piece actually comes out and protrudes from his body 6 or 7 inches. So if you're starting to throw those punches 6 or 7 inches out from where you are supposed to throw it, you're exposing yourself to a counter punch when you're starting from that far out, and he was actually practicing it in the gym. I remember watching that and making the comment on it on ESPN and everyone thought I was crazy. We love stuff that's illustrative, so everyone was saying, "That's great and that looks great." But we're not looking close and I'm thinking, every time he throws a punch, it's from further and further away then he's supposed to. That means he's making a space that's available to throw in between. He's exposing himself, and sure enough, he goes into the fight, he goes to throw a punch and bang! Pacquiao hits him with a punch right inside of those shots. Mayweather did it to him too; same thing, right inside of his shot. You can also say, "Well, Cotto was a bigger guy." You can also say Cotto was a damaged guy. You can say Cotto never recovered from the Margarito fight. He took a terrible punishment in that fight mentally, emotionally and physically, so you can say that he was a guy that was made to order. So you take all of those, again, you don't want to take nothing away from Pacquiao, but you want to be honest about it. He had guys that were set up perfectly for him.
Now, you got a guy in Margarito, who really, truly is a bigger guy. I can't really say none of those other guys were guys who were going to have a big, physical advantage because of all of the things I just mentioned. But this guy, we can make that case. I can say, "Margarito is going to be a bigger and more physical guy." Then you say, "Pacquiao is going to be faster and more clever and trickier." And then you look at the Clottey fight, and Clottey threw punches like he was paying for them and he was the cheapest guy in the world. He was throwing punches like they were charging him $10,000 a punch and he had a budget of $5,000. He didn't throw any punches. But I watch that fight, and he threw maybe 7 punches the whole night. Of course I'm exaggerating, but he threw a small amount of punches the entire night, and 4 of them were uppercuts and I think all 4 uppercuts landed. I remember watching it and saying, "Oh my God, look at this. He threw 4 uppercuts in the whole night of boxing and all 4 landed." I thought to myself, wow, you know what? If he was to fight a guy that was more willing, more confident, more disciplined, more prepared, more professional, or whatever you want to call it, but a guy that let his hands go, guess what? The opportunity is there to hit this guy. And that opportunity will be there for Margarito. And the only way I can look at it, and again, if you can't say what you believe, then you shouldn't say anything. To me, it's the right fight for his promoter, Bob Arum. Arum can't lose; he's got both guys. I'm not sure that it's the right fight for Pacquiao because to me, Pacquiao can make money with a lot of guys. He ain't making extra money because it's Margarito. Please don't try to sell me that because I ain't buying. He can make money, comparable money, with a lot of guys. We know the real big one is Mayweather. We understand that, but he can make money with a lot of guys. He doesn't have to fight Margarito, but for Arum, it makes a lot of sense because he can't lose because he's got both guys. I'm not sure that if I was managing Pacquiao that I would be saying, "You know what? At this point in his career, he needs to fight Margarito."
PC: I remember you speaking on air about the telling damage to Pacquiao's face after the Clottey fight. You feel Margarito will actually be more effective than that because he's busier?
TA: We get caught up sometimes in seeing what we want to see. We see the blur of Pacquiao because he's very fast, he's throwing a million punches to the other guy's handful, and we're walking away saying, "wow," because that's all a lot of us saw. It's not all we saw. We did see the other guy throw a very small amount of punches, but they landed and they did damage.
PC: You have already stated on Friday Night Fights how you felt about the Texas Commission granting Antonio Margarito his license. Now we are past that, because the fight is happening, so how do you see it playing out? Does Margarito have a chance or will he be another Pacquiao victim? Will Pacquiao capture his 8th title in 8 divisions?
TA: You know, I don't think these guys have 8 titles or 10 titles and stuff like that. I don't think they are real titles. You know, some of these titles are ridiculous; junior middleweight this and the in-between that. There are so many titles and so many weight divisions that, after awhile, if you wanted to and you aspired to, you could have 15 titles if that was your goal. They would create one for you if you needed them to, so I don't think about 8 titles. When I think about the greatest guy who has fought and had multiple titles, I don't think about these guys. I think about Henry Armstrong. That's a man. And it's not that these guys aren't, and they are all great in their places in time and place where they fit in right now, and I give them all of the credit for that, but come on? I mean, 8 titles? Henry Armstrong won the featherweight title, the lightweight title, welterweight title and full titles when there were so many good fighters around. And then he won the middleweight title against Ceferino Garcia, but they robbed him and made it a draw. So really, he won the featherweight, lightweight, welterweight and middleweight title. He should have had the middleweight title and he defended all of those titles. When I think about multiple titles, I think about that guy. I think of guys like that, where there were 4 titles and the best guys were around. There weren't spots to where you could pick a spot and just walk into a spot if you had a broken hand, and you could walk into that spot because you knew it was a very soft spot. That's what I think of. I'm not taking nothing away from Pacquiao, but I don't think of his greatness because you attach 8 titles. I'm just thinking of his talents, his speed, his confidence level, his punch output and his improvements over the last couple of years. He comes at you from different angles now. He offers different problems for you now, where before, you used to look for the big punch and now, you have to worry about the right hand and not just the left hand. I look at that and give him credit for those things, but I'm not going to go overboard with the 8 titles.
As far as the fight goes with Margarito, I think that's a dangerous fight for him. I personally think Pacquiao could lose this fight. I think that you've got a naturally bigger guy. He is really the bigger guy because Margarito is a big welterweight. He's a horse. He has the stuff that happened in the past, but as far as physicality, this is a big welterweight. He is a guy that throws a lot of punches, he's a guy that is physically strong and, up until the Mosley fight, as you touched on, he was very confident. I think that with this fight with Pacquiao, it presents a lot of areas of danger and real potential problems for Pacquiao that he hasn't faced for awhile. If you go back, and take nothing away from him, but if you go back to the fights that were really the marquee fights that made his career...put aside the Marquez fights, which were great fights that some people thought he didn't win both of those fights, so that's one thing, you can make an argument that he might not have won (laughing).
Put that aside and you look at De La Hoya and you can make the argument that De La Hoya was dead at the weight, you can make the argument that he is a shot fighter and you can also make the argument that De La Hoya never won a big fight. He never won a big fight. There was just something really wrong with De La Hoya where he would find a way to lose in big fights. Some people will say he beat Quartey. That wasn't considered a big fight. In fact, I think that was De La Hoya's last HBO appearance before he became a pay-per-view star. But if you look at the big fights in his [De La Hoya's] career, he lost them, so you look at that fight and the Ricky Hatton fight, and Hatton may have been a bigger guy, but he wasn't a puncher. I know it's easy to say after the fact, but going in there, you can say he was made to order for Pacquiao. He throws wide punches, he's not a big puncher, he's right in front of you and if you close your eyes, he's right in front of you. And he's going to start a punch from too far away. I remember when I watched the 24/7 and he was training with this guy that had a big body protector on. And he was punching at that body thing and I thought to myself, "Wait a minute, that body suit sits out about 6 or 7 inches from his body. That means he has to bring his hands back to throw a punch 6 inches before he normally would." Normally you would get a little closer to a guy to throw a punch, but now he's throwing the punch from further away because the piece actually comes out and protrudes from his body 6 or 7 inches. So if you're starting to throw those punches 6 or 7 inches out from where you are supposed to throw it, you're exposing yourself to a counter punch when you're starting from that far out, and he was actually practicing it in the gym. I remember watching that and making the comment on it on ESPN and everyone thought I was crazy. We love stuff that's illustrative, so everyone was saying, "That's great and that looks great." But we're not looking close and I'm thinking, every time he throws a punch, it's from further and further away then he's supposed to. That means he's making a space that's available to throw in between. He's exposing himself, and sure enough, he goes into the fight, he goes to throw a punch and bang! Pacquiao hits him with a punch right inside of those shots. Mayweather did it to him too; same thing, right inside of his shot. You can also say, "Well, Cotto was a bigger guy." You can also say Cotto was a damaged guy. You can say Cotto never recovered from the Margarito fight. He took a terrible punishment in that fight mentally, emotionally and physically, so you can say that he was a guy that was made to order. So you take all of those, again, you don't want to take nothing away from Pacquiao, but you want to be honest about it. He had guys that were set up perfectly for him.
Now, you got a guy in Margarito, who really, truly is a bigger guy. I can't really say none of those other guys were guys who were going to have a big, physical advantage because of all of the things I just mentioned. But this guy, we can make that case. I can say, "Margarito is going to be a bigger and more physical guy." Then you say, "Pacquiao is going to be faster and more clever and trickier." And then you look at the Clottey fight, and Clottey threw punches like he was paying for them and he was the cheapest guy in the world. He was throwing punches like they were charging him $10,000 a punch and he had a budget of $5,000. He didn't throw any punches. But I watch that fight, and he threw maybe 7 punches the whole night. Of course I'm exaggerating, but he threw a small amount of punches the entire night, and 4 of them were uppercuts and I think all 4 uppercuts landed. I remember watching it and saying, "Oh my God, look at this. He threw 4 uppercuts in the whole night of boxing and all 4 landed." I thought to myself, wow, you know what? If he was to fight a guy that was more willing, more confident, more disciplined, more prepared, more professional, or whatever you want to call it, but a guy that let his hands go, guess what? The opportunity is there to hit this guy. And that opportunity will be there for Margarito. And the only way I can look at it, and again, if you can't say what you believe, then you shouldn't say anything. To me, it's the right fight for his promoter, Bob Arum. Arum can't lose; he's got both guys. I'm not sure that it's the right fight for Pacquiao because to me, Pacquiao can make money with a lot of guys. He ain't making extra money because it's Margarito. Please don't try to sell me that because I ain't buying. He can make money, comparable money, with a lot of guys. We know the real big one is Mayweather. We understand that, but he can make money with a lot of guys. He doesn't have to fight Margarito, but for Arum, it makes a lot of sense because he can't lose because he's got both guys. I'm not sure that if I was managing Pacquiao that I would be saying, "You know what? At this point in his career, he needs to fight Margarito."
PC: I remember you speaking on air about the telling damage to Pacquiao's face after the Clottey fight. You feel Margarito will actually be more effective than that because he's busier?
TA: We get caught up sometimes in seeing what we want to see. We see the blur of Pacquiao because he's very fast, he's throwing a million punches to the other guy's handful, and we're walking away saying, "wow," because that's all a lot of us saw. It's not all we saw. We did see the other guy throw a very small amount of punches, but they landed and they did damage.
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Manny Pacquiao delayed his training in Baguio
MANILA, Philippines — A delay of a few days will not affect Manny Pacquiao’s preparation for the Nov. 13 fight with Antonio Margarito, the pound-for-pound king’s conditioning coach said on Thursday.
Alex Ariza said that even if Pacquiao eventually decides to postpone his trip to Baguio until later next week instead of this Sunday, the Filipino puncher would still have enough time to reach fighting form.
“Manny already knows his body well enough unlike before when we were still starting out,” said Ariza, who has been supervising Pacquiao’s conditioning and nutrition since mid-2008.
Chief trainer Freddie Roach is actually arriving in Manila tomorrow morning alongside two sparring partners and is looking forward to the start of the eight-week camp in Baguio on Monday.
In the end, Ariza said it would still be “Manny who will the call the shots (on where to train).”
Early this week, Pacquiao showed up for two straight days at the Elorde Gym on Del Monte Ave. in Quezon City.
Pacquiao looked trim and fast and furious during his short workout under Buboy Fernandez and said he might use the Elorde Gym until next week before going to Baguio, site of his camp during the runup to the Miguel Cotto bout at around the same time last year.
Joe Ramos, another member of Team Pacquiao, said it would be better for his boss to just remain in Metro Manila in the entire training camp owing to his duties in Congress being the Sarangani lawmaker.
“Good luck,” texted Ramos, one of Pacquiao’s consultants in Congress, when told about Roach’s determined plea to bring Pacquiao to Baguio at the soonest possible time.
Source mb.com.ph
Alex Ariza said that even if Pacquiao eventually decides to postpone his trip to Baguio until later next week instead of this Sunday, the Filipino puncher would still have enough time to reach fighting form.
“Manny already knows his body well enough unlike before when we were still starting out,” said Ariza, who has been supervising Pacquiao’s conditioning and nutrition since mid-2008.
Chief trainer Freddie Roach is actually arriving in Manila tomorrow morning alongside two sparring partners and is looking forward to the start of the eight-week camp in Baguio on Monday.
In the end, Ariza said it would still be “Manny who will the call the shots (on where to train).”
Early this week, Pacquiao showed up for two straight days at the Elorde Gym on Del Monte Ave. in Quezon City.
Pacquiao looked trim and fast and furious during his short workout under Buboy Fernandez and said he might use the Elorde Gym until next week before going to Baguio, site of his camp during the runup to the Miguel Cotto bout at around the same time last year.
Joe Ramos, another member of Team Pacquiao, said it would be better for his boss to just remain in Metro Manila in the entire training camp owing to his duties in Congress being the Sarangani lawmaker.
“Good luck,” texted Ramos, one of Pacquiao’s consultants in Congress, when told about Roach’s determined plea to bring Pacquiao to Baguio at the soonest possible time.
Source mb.com.ph
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Pacquiao vs Margarito on HBO 24/7
HBO will produce their acclaimed 24/7 series to promote the upcoming pay-per-view bout between Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito. The series has been used to promote many HBO pay-per-views in the past and is very well received by fans and critics.
Pacquiao-Margarito 24/7 will be a four-part series with the debut episode airing on October 23. The fight will be on November 13 at Cowboys Stadium. It will be Antonio Margarito’s first time on 24/7 but Manny Pacquiao’s fourth. Pacquiao previously took part in the series in his bouts with Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Miguel Cotto.
Source: insidefights.com
Pacquiao-Margarito 24/7 will be a four-part series with the debut episode airing on October 23. The fight will be on November 13 at Cowboys Stadium. It will be Antonio Margarito’s first time on 24/7 but Manny Pacquiao’s fourth. Pacquiao previously took part in the series in his bouts with Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Miguel Cotto.
Source: insidefights.com
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